May 08, 2008, 10:34 PM // 22:34
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#181
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Wilds Pathfinder
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Taurucis
It's hard to ignore a title when it has a negative impact on you. Like for example... half of an alliance decides that they'll start playing HA to farm for Z-Keys, thus leaving behind everyone who can't or won't HA. Wouldn't someone be unhappy if his guild stopped its usual PvE activities for something else that he was left out of? It's hard to ignore your guild ignoring you.
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Then you learn to adapt and move on. We are learning beasts you know. Life, and your environment is not static.
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May 08, 2008, 10:34 PM // 22:34
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#182
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Scotland
Profession: W/N
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chestnut
Ok my question is this how come everyone is considering this new title as PVE title and the Emote a PVE emote? dont you have to PVP to get it?
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Keys are BUYABLE.
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May 08, 2008, 10:35 PM // 22:35
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#183
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jul 2006
Profession: Mo/Me
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[QUOTE=Shanaeri Rynale]
It's also disturbing that special emotes are being encouraged to be used as 'finishing moves'; something which has been discouraged in PvP since day 1QUOTE]
SO True. I was banned once for doing /rank in hall of heros after a victory.
now they want me to /rank?
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May 08, 2008, 10:37 PM // 22:37
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#184
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Banned
Join Date: Oct 2007
Guild: LLJK
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarevok Thordin
Keys are BUYABLE.
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how ever true this is the price shot up from 3k to who knows how much now.
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May 08, 2008, 10:37 PM // 22:37
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#185
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: New York
Profession: W/R
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I can see why ANet is doing what they are doing.
To make you hate GW1 so you can go play GW2 when it comes out. I should have seen this sooner...
On the idea on Key price going up: I sold 10 keys for 4.3k each. I predict 6.5k by the end of Sunday.
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May 08, 2008, 10:40 PM // 22:40
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#186
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: The edge of reason
Guild: I don't play any more.
Profession: W/E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SerenitySilverstar
Then you learn to adapt and move on. We are learning beasts you know. Life, and your environment is not static.
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Not everyone floats through life on Happy Cloud Number Nine.
Now, let's say the someone's guild was his very first guild... He's made friends in it, he's well known among everyone else, and everyone is close knit... do you seriously expect him to just up and leave his guild like they don't matter to him?
You make it sound like it's easy, while it actually isn't.
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May 08, 2008, 10:42 PM // 22:42
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#187
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Feb 2006
Guild: The Arctic Marauders [TAM]
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Wow, ANOTHER gold-based title. God damn it.
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May 08, 2008, 11:06 PM // 23:06
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#189
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Oct 2005
Guild: [SWIM]/[HooD]/[RFE]
Profession: Me/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JR
PvE players asked for a title track with emotes, and they got one. Seeing as you like bold: Just because you get the keys from PvP players does not make this a PvP title. It does not require playing PvP at all.
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this is a PvP title, mostly people who benefits from this is PvP'ers, since the cost of z-keys is gone up till 5k per, i dont see any PvE'er getting this to max any soon, and its of course gonna cost them fortune.
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May 08, 2008, 11:43 PM // 23:43
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#190
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Scotland
Profession: W/N
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Indian
this is a PvP title, mostly people who benefits from this is PvP'ers, since the cost of z-keys is gone up till 5k per, i dont see any PvE'er getting this to max any soon, and its of course gonna cost them fortune.
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PvPers won't care about the zaishen chest so much.
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May 08, 2008, 11:46 PM // 23:46
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#191
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: United States
Guild: [SOHE]
Profession: W/
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I was logging on hopefully to spend some of my useless cash and ectos just sitting there in my inventory/chest, and what do i see? Zkeys selling for 4-6k each!
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May 08, 2008, 11:47 PM // 23:47
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#192
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Hell's Protector
Join Date: Jul 2005
Guild: The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]
Profession: D/A
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Looks like the new everlasting tonics aren't anywhere as rare as the older ones. I already see four of them in High End just hours after this was introduced.
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May 09, 2008, 12:04 AM // 00:04
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#193
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Wilds Pathfinder
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I've thought of a way to bring down the price of the keys quickly: drop the rate of Balthazar points transferred from 5K per key, to 1 or 2K.
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May 09, 2008, 12:30 AM // 00:30
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#194
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: West Coast, USA
Profession: Mo/E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove
A quick google search tells me that 1000k goes for around 150 bucks. The title takes 60,000k to max, not considering that zkeys are going to skyrocket in price. That means someone would have to spend 9000 dollars for a pixelated emote in a video game. I hope I don't have to describe how utterly stupid that is.
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Imagine all the hungry mouths $9k would feed in a poor, starving region of the third-world.
Edit:
So someone mentioned this isn't retroactive? heh
Last edited by Kula; May 09, 2008 at 12:38 AM // 00:38..
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May 09, 2008, 12:34 AM // 00:34
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#195
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Forge Runner
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This sure is a weird way of doing it... if anet wanted a generic PvP title, they should've based it directly on Balth faction. Either a title for faction cap, which would basically be hero, champion and glad title in one - a counterpart to KoaBD in PvE. (While they're at it, would be nice to make lux/kurz titles give a tiny bonus to faction cap, after all they are half-PvP.) The second option would be a title for total faction earned on account.
Basing a title off opening the chest and tradeable items means it's just a glorified drunkard with an emote. Also, having an emote for this and not for glad or champ feels weird.
As for emotes themselves, I don't really like them. The weapons look too... solid. Too realistic. IMO the emotes would've looked much better if they were abstracted glowing weapons - just like HA tiger does not look like a live tiger, zaishen spear shouldn't have been made to look like a real spear IMO.
But hey, it's new content I suppose. 5k a key seems pretty ridiculous imo, I'm gonna start selling mine. Chest drops jank anyway and, as I said already, I don't like the emotes.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetdoc
Looks like the new everlasting tonics aren't anywhere as rare as the older ones. I already see four of them in High End just hours after this was introduced.
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Might be because a lot of people blew stacks of zaishen keys on new titles.
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May 09, 2008, 01:11 AM // 01:11
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#197
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: West Coast, USA
Profession: Mo/E
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That guild name is full of win.
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May 09, 2008, 01:43 AM // 01:43
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#198
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Toronto, Ont.
Guild: [DT][pT][jT][Grim][Nion]
Profession: W/
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I always thought total balth faction needed an emote, or even the glad title, this right here is piss in the jar.
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May 09, 2008, 01:49 AM // 01:49
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#199
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Mar 2006
Profession: N/
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100mil balth faction vs 100mil gold
i never farm...
never...
and i pvp more than i pve...
so can someone tell me y i've made more gold than i have balth faction?
(my current gold count is lower...but if u add the things i've spent money on like skills/armour/etc)
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May 09, 2008, 02:18 AM // 02:18
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#200
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: England
Guild: Slash afk [afk]
Profession: A/
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I agree that the title would probably be better based on total balth faction earned or faction cap, as someone said previously. Total faction cap would make the zaishen title very PvP oriented; whereas a rich farmer can buy themselves max rank in zaishen as it is.
Disclaimer: just an opinion, no need for trolls to start flaming
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